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San Francisco State University

M.S. in Counseling: Concentration in Marriage, Family, and Child Counseling, in San Francisco. What the program publishes about itself, what its accreditation means for where you can practice, and what students and graduates say in public.

CaliforniaBBS-listed

In short

Is San Francisco State University worth it?

Courses, curriculum, practicum and cost — San Francisco

60 units min
60 units minto complete the degree
COAMFTEno
FormatIn-person
Discussion found1 threads

What this program actually is

OrientationSystemic–familial–relational and developmentally-informed, inside a CACREP counselor-education frame with a heavy social-justice / cultural-foundations emphasis

SFSU does not have an MFT department. It has a Department of Counseling that runs three master's degrees and five specializations at once — Career, College, Clinical Mental Health, School, and Marriage, Family & Child Counseling — and MFCC is a concentration inside the M.S. in Counseling. Everyone in the building takes the same core (COUN 700, 702, 703, 705/706, 715, 720, 736, 738, 794, 811, 833, 857, 890, 891, 892) and the MFCC concentration is what gets bolted on top: a two-semester couple-and-family sequence (COUN 858 and 860), a child-treatment seminar (861), a 2-unit sexuality course (859) and a 1-unit consultation course (827). That is exactly 60 units with no electives — every one of the 21 required courses is prescribed. The department states the training emphasis plainly: "a culturally-informed and inclusive approach, and a developmentally-informed systemic-familial-relational orientation to counseling."

The department is CACREP-accredited and it shows in the fieldwork structure more than the coursework. Fieldwork starts in the very first semester — COUN 705 and COUN 706 must be taken concurrently, same section, same instructor, with a signed site contract before you enroll — and runs four consecutive semesters across two different year-long placements, 700 hours total with a 280-hour direct-contact floor. There is no in-house training clinic; the department instead maintains a vetted "Master List" of sites, and its 2023–24 CACREP report claims over 200 training partners and roughly 45,000 hours of mostly unpaid counseling delivered to Bay Area communities each year. Money partly offsets that: 72 of 148 enrolled students received $10,000 federally funded training stipends in 2024, and the department awarded $41,000 more in scholarships.

It is also the hardest of the three to get into, by a wide margin, and the department publishes the numbers. In the 2023–24 cycle it received 573 applications, admitted 55 and enrolled 49 across all three degrees — a roughly 10% admit rate — of whom 20 entered MFCC. Total department enrollment was 148, with 54 in MFCC. There is no GRE, but there is a 2,000-hour prior human-services work-experience requirement, a 3.0 GPA in the last 60 units, a 1,300-word personal statement, a post-admission writing-proficiency screen, and a single December 15 deadline for fall entry only. Students take an average of 2.9 years to finish (range 2–7). Anyone eyeing the LPCC should read the fine print: MFCC cannot be taken as an emphasis, so the LPCC route is MFCC plus a Clinical Mental Health Counseling emphasis, which is four additional courses (12 units) and a whole extra year of field placement on top of the 60.

The program’s own page →

See it and hear it

Dept of Counseling Graduate Admissions Information Session -SF State recorded Sept 2022A recorded admissions information session from the Department of Counseling covering the Marriage, Family and Child Counseling program, the course load, and how to apply.Department of Counseling SF State · on YouTube · nothing loads from YouTube until you press play
The center of the SF State campus in the Lake Merced district, October 2024. The Department of Counseling sits in the College of Health and Social Sciences; there is no counseling clinic on campus, so MFCC trainees commute to two different Bay Area agency placements over two years.
The center of the SF State campus in the Lake Merced district, October 2024. The Department of Counseling sits in the College of Health and Social Sciences; there is no counseling clinic on campus, so MFCC trainees commute to two different Bay Area agency placements over two years. Photo by Grandmaster Huon, via Wikimedia Commons (CC0) · CC0 1.0 (public domain dedication) · Commons

The courses that define it

Every California program teaches law and ethics, assessment and a survey of theories. These are the courses that are not on every list — the ones that tell you what this particular faculty believes therapy is. The quoted text is the catalog’s own; the note underneath each one is mine.

COUN 7053 units

Counseling Practicum

"Practicum and trainee experience designed to integrate foundational counseling knowledge with applied fieldwork. Emphasis on the development of culturally responsive and ethical counseling skills through supervised practice, self-reflection, and feedback. Engage in mock and field-based sessions..."catalog ↗

Why it is worth noticingThis is the first-semester course, and the prerequisite line is the real information: "concurrent enrollment in COUN 706; contract with an approved field training site." You need a placement lined up before you take your first practicum class. Very few California MFT programs put students in front of clients in semester one; SFSU requires 40 direct client-contact hours by the end of it or you cannot advance.

COUN 8583 units

Couple and Family Counseling I

"Major theoretical approaches: analytic, behavioral, systems, intergenerational, and existential. Reading, demonstrations, activities emphasize working with couples."catalog ↗

Why it is worth noticingThe first half of a two-semester relational sequence — most CA programs teach one combined couples-and-families course. Note the ordering: 858 is couples-focused, 860 is families-focused, and 858 sits in the second year (fall), after a full year of fieldwork. Prerequisites are COUN 700 and COUN 706.

COUN 8603 units

Couple and Family Counseling II

"Applied psychotherapeutic techniques in working with families and relationships. Emphasis on direct experience working with families through simulations, demonstrations, case material."catalog ↗

Why it is worth noticingThe applied half. "Direct experience working with families through simulations" is the distinguishing clause — this is a skills lab, not a survey, and it is scheduled in the final spring semester alongside the internship and the culminating paper.

COUN 8592 units

Counseling Aspects of Sexuality

"Major sexual problems encountered in counseling; causes; counseling approaches; techniques and treatments; clinical implications including feminine orientations. Satisfies MFCC requirements for child sexual abuse and human sexuality."catalog ↗

Why it is worth noticingA dedicated 2-unit sexuality course, required only of MFCC students (it is listed as a recommended elective for the other specializations). The last sentence tells you it is doing double duty against two separate BBS content requirements, which is why it is 2 units rather than 3.

COUN 8613 units

Seminar on Child Treatment

"Concepts, processes, techniques of child and adolescent treatment, crisis intervention, supportive counseling, and psychotherapeutic treatment."catalog ↗

Why it is worth noticingThe "Child" in Marriage, Family and Child Counseling is not decorative — this is a full required semester on child and adolescent treatment, scheduled in the first-year spring so it lands while students are already carrying a caseload. Prerequisites are COUN 705 and 706.

COUN 8271 units

The Consultation Process

"Dynamics of the consultation process; implications for various specialists in developing effective working relationships with teachers and parents."catalog ↗

Why it is worth noticingA required 1-unit course — an unusual object in a CA MFT curriculum — taken concurrently with the 2-unit sexuality course in the final spring. Its explicit target is working with teachers and parents, a tell that SFSU expects a lot of its MFCC graduates to end up in school-based and child-serving agencies.

The whole degree, term by term

What you would actually take, in the order you would take it. Sequences change; check the current catalog before you count on any single term.

Fall admission only, in-person only, no online or hybrid option; full-time and part-time are both possible but the department warns that work schedules must flex around daytime, late-afternoon and evening classes. The department publishes both a 2-year and a 3-year roadmap; the 2-year grid is reproduced below (4 terms × 15 units = 60). The 3-year plan spreads the same 60 units as 9/12 + 12/9 + 9/9, moving COUN 705/706 to the second year. Course titles below are the official 2026–27 bulletin titles; the department's own advising handbook grid contains several mislabeled rows (e.g. it labels COUN 857 "Seminar in Research" and COUN 720 "Special expertise course"). Sequence is from the 2024–25 Student Advising Handbook; unit counts and the required-course list are from the 2026–27 Bulletin. course sequence ↗

60units in total

Year 1 — Fall (15 units)
  1. COUN 702 Developmental Foundations for Counselors (3)
  2. COUN 705 Counseling Practicum (3)
  3. COUN 706 Counseling Skills and Process (3)
  4. COUN 833 Social and Cultural Foundations in Counseling (3)
  5. COUN 857 Law and Ethics for Counselors (3)
5 courses
Year 1 — Spring (15 units)
  1. COUN 700 Theories of Counseling and Psychotherapy (3)
  2. COUN 703 Psychological Foundations for Counselors (3)
  3. COUN 736 Advanced Counseling Process (3)
  4. COUN 738 Addictions (3)
  5. COUN 861 Seminar on Child Treatment (3)
5 courses
Year 2 — Fall (15 units)
  1. COUN 720 Career Counseling (3)
  2. COUN 794 Seminar in Research (3)
  3. COUN 811 Group Counseling Process (3)
  4. COUN 858 Couple and Family Counseling I (3)
  5. COUN 890 Integrative Counseling and Internship (3)
5 courses
Year 2 — Spring (15 units)
  1. COUN 715 Assessment in Counseling (3)
  2. COUN 827 The Consultation Process (1)
  3. COUN 859 Counseling Aspects of Sexuality (2)
  4. COUN 860 Couple and Family Counseling II (3)
  5. COUN 891 Case Studies and Internship Seminar (3)
  6. COUN 892 Culminating Experience for Counselors (3)
6 courses

How practicum actually works

Californian clinical training runs in two legally distinct stages, and the difference decides what a program can and cannot do for you.

A trainee is a student. You see clients while still enrolled, at a site your program approves, supervised by someone the site provides. This is practicum, and it is the stage a program controls. An associate — registered with the Board after you graduate — is no longer a student, is usually paid, and is working toward the 3,000 hours the license requires. The Board renamed this stage from “intern” to “associate” in 2018, so any page still saying “MFT intern” is quoting something out of date.

Hours you bank as a trainee count toward the 3,000, up to a limit, which is why the size and quality of a program’s placement matters long after graduation: a student who leaves with 1,000 hours starts the associate years a third of the way through them, and one who leaves with the 225-hour minimum starts at the beginning.

Practicum is also where a degree most often stops being on schedule. Coursework runs on a calendar the school controls; placement does not. The questions that matter are therefore all about who owns the problem of finding you a site — and the answer differs enormously between programs on this list.

What happens after the degree →

You apply, with the school’s help

There is an approved-site list and real support, and the seat is still yours to win. Most programs are here and most students manage it. Ask for last year’s numbers rather than the policy: how many students placed on the first round, and how many had to extend.

Traineeship placement is the responsibility of the student working with their faculty advisor, specialization coordinator, and the internship coordinator in the Department of Counseling. the school’s own page →
StartsFirst semester of the first year — COUN 705 and COUN 706 taken concurrently, in the same section with the same instructor, and you must already have a signed contract with an approved site to enroll
Hours required700 total fieldwork hours across four semesters, of which a minimum of 280 must be direct face-to-face client contact (in person or telehealth video). The per-semester ladder is 40 direct / 100 total in COUN 705, 60 / 150 in COUN 736, 90 / 200 in COUN 890, and 90 / 250 in COUN 891. No relational (couple/family) sub-minimum is published for the degree; SFSU's 700 hours are a CACREP requirement, and the handbook is explicit that "these hours are not equivalent to hours that count toward licensure. Only some of these 700 hours will be applied to licensure."

There is no in-house SFSU counseling clinic — all training happens at outside agencies, and the department says it works with over 200 community training partners across the Bay Area. Placement is the student's responsibility but is heavily gated: you may only apply to sites on the department's pre-approved "Master List" (kept on Teams), and the final decision is "a matter of consultation between the student, their faculty advisor, and the specialization faculty coordinator," with an internship coordinator and a faculty liaison layered on top. You do two separate year-long placements, each running fall-through-spring: COUN 705/706 then 736 in year one, then 890 then 891 at a different site in year two. Site commitment is 12–16 hours a week on at least two days in year one and 16–20 hours a week in year two, with a required caseload of 3–5 clients weekly in year one and 5–10 in year two. Supervision is triple-layered: at least one hour a week of individual supervision from a licensed on-site supervisor (for MFCC students the site supervisor must be a licensed therapist), roughly 1.5 hours a week of group supervision delivered through the weekly three-hour class meeting, plus five hours of individual supervision inside COUN 705. Every approved site has agreed to let trainees audio-record two to three client sessions per semester in COUN 736, 890 and 891 for review with both the site supervisor and the course instructor — you cannot pass those courses without the recordings. Fall below 80% of a semester's required hours and you get an Incomplete; two grades below B in 736/890/891 means declassification from the program. source ↗

Will this degree travel

Not COAMFTE accredited

That is not a defect — 66 of the 78 institutions on the Board’s list are in the same position, including most of the Cal States, and their graduates license in California every year.

It becomes a problem if you leave. Several states will not accept a non-COAMFTE degree without remedial coursework, and a few will not accept it at all. If there is any chance you move, check the destination board’s rules before you enroll, not after.

What the Board requires of any qualifying degree →

What it is, on paper

DegreeM.S. in Counseling: Concentration in Marriage, Family, and Child Counseling
Units60 units min
LengthPublished 2-year and 3-year roadmaps; department-reported average time to degree is 2.9 years (range 2–7).
FormatIn-person
Also LPCCYes — Conditional — requires additionally completing the Clinical Mental Health Counseling emphasis to be endorsed for LPCC
Published tuitionnot published

The program’s own page →

What it costs

This program does not publish a tuition figure anywhere I could find it. 43 of the 78 on the Board’s list are the same. That is a fair thing to ask admissions directly, and the speed and specificity of the answer tells you something on its own.

What a month costs to live on while you study →

Getting in

Admissions testNot required
Minimum GPA3.0
Cohort sizeAbout 20 new MFCC students a year. Department-wide the 2023–24 cycle drew 573 applicants, admitted 55 and enrolled 49 across all three degrees (a ~10% admit rate); of the 49, 20 entered MFCC, 21 the M.S. in Counseling and 8 the M.S. in Clinical Mental Health Counseling. Total department enrollment that year was 148, of whom 54 were MFCC.
PrerequisitesBachelor's degree with a minimum 3.0 GPA in the last 60 units; a minimum of 2,000 hours of work experience in human services before applying; two letters of professional recommendation (personal references are not accepted); CV of no more than 3 pages; personal statement of no more than 1,300 words; affidavit of authorship; summary of experience form; $25 department fee on top of the Cal State Apply fee. Admitted students are conditionally classified and must pass a departmental writing sample after admission but before enrolling — those who fail must take a writing course, "usually at an additional cost."
DeadlineCal State Apply opens October 1 and closes December 15 at 8:59pm PST. Fall admission only — "there are no spring admits."
The Department of Counseling DOES NOT require GRE or undergraduate prerequisite courses source →

admissions page ↗

How its graduates did on the Board’s exam

88%passed first time139 of 158 candidates
80%statewide, same window14,096 of 17,698 candidates

Counting every attempt rather than only first attempts, the figure is 75% across 214 sittings here, against 66% statewide. First attempts are the fairer comparison — counting resits measures how many tries people needed rather than how many passed, and it penalises a school whose graduates keep going.

On the separate California Law and Ethics exam, 90% of this school’s 158 first-time candidates passed, against 80% statewide.

Recorded by the Board as San Francisco State University. Its list is kept by institution and its names lag: a school that has since renamed appears under the name it had when the candidates sat.

What this number is, and what it is not

It describes candidates, not teaching. In 2022 the Council on Social Work Education removed licensing-exam pass rates from its accreditation standards, saying the data “may not be an equitable measure of program outcomes” — after the social-work exam board’s own analysis found first-time pass rates of 84% for white candidates and 45% for Black candidates. A program that enrolls more career-changers and more students of color will post a lower rate while teaching at least as well. The accrediting body with the most reason to want this metric examined it and stopped using it.

The denominator is not this year’s students. These are people who sat the exam during the window, often several years after graduating and sometimes after the program changed shape or owner.

It is published here because it is a real, official figure that is otherwise almost impossible to find — and it is published on this page only. There is no pass-rate column in the directory, nothing is sorted by it, and no school on this site is ranked against another.

July 2018 - December 2024, pooled (13 semiannual BBS reports) · the Board’s published exam results by school →

What people say about it

Quoted where the wording carries the meaning, linked in every case, opening in a new window. The tags are my reading of each source, not a measurement, and the unflattering ones are here too.

A second-year student: "You begin your clinical work during your first semester, which is rare for an MFT program," and "I have personally found it to be a high quality and very rewarding experience." Still structurally accurate — COUN 705/706 remain first-semester, site-contract-required courses in the 2026–27 bulletin.Student Doctor Network, "Feedback on MFT Program at SDSU, SFSU and Sonoma State?", December 2009positiveThe same student described the curriculum as having "a strong leaning toward psychodynamic theory and interpersonal therapy." Treat as dated — the current bulletin describes a "developmentally-informed systemic-familial-relational orientation," and the faculty and course list have turned over since.Student Doctor Network, December 2009mixedThe department's own student experience survey (N=24) is the most candid thing published about it: 43% rated their experience excellent, 29% good, 16% average and 10% poor. On fieldwork specifically, only 62% called their practicum/internship experience good or excellent — the lowest-scoring item except department communication (63%). Peer support scored highest at 91%.SFSU Department of Counseling, 2023–2024 CACREP Annual Performance ReportmixedOf 22 May-2024 graduates surveyed, 86% were employed and all of those found work within six months; average reported salary was $84,000 (range $70K–$105K). Read it with care: the sample is department-wide and skews toward school and college counselors, and only 15% were on the MFT licensure track at the time of the survey.SFSU Department of Counseling graduate survey, fall 2024informational"I'm a 2nd year at SFSU's masters in clinical psychology program, which is one of two MFT tracks at SFSU (the other is a masters in counseling, part of the Education/Counseling department)... It is clinically intensive (no research) with a strong leaning toward psychodynamic theory and interpersonal therapy. You begin your clinical work during your first semester, which is rare for an MFT program. I have personally found it to be a high quality and very rewarding experience."Student Doctor Network forums, second-year SFSU MFT-track student ('Ashelia'), 20 Dec 2009positive"San Francisco State University's graduate program is very competitive and not diverse at all. The chair of the department is very incompetent at her job, she does not respond to emails or questions effectively and when I emailed the counseling department, whoever emailed me back could not spell the word application. Most of the staff have a very nasty attitude and are unwilling to help students with questions. If you apply for the graduate program, good luck. Don't waste your time or money."GradReports review, SFSU Counseling degree, class of 2021, posted 15 June 2021 (Justine)critical

What to ask before you apply

None of these are answered on a program page, and all five change what the degree is actually worth to you.

Where do students actually get placed, and who finds the placement?

The single question that separates programs. Ask for a list of current sites, and ask plainly whether the program places you or expects you to find your own. A rural or online student unable to find a site cannot graduate.

How many of your graduates passed the clinical exam last year?

The Board publishes this by school, so the program cannot be the only source. Ask anyway, and see whether the answer matches.

What is the total cost, including fees, in the year I would start?

Per-unit rates move. Multiply by the actual unit count and add campus fees before comparing anything.

How many relational hours does a typical student leave with?

The 500 couples-and-families hours are carved out of the 1,750 clinical ones, and they are the category associates most often finish short on. A program placing students in adult individual settings will not generate them.

Does this degree also make me eligible for the LPCC?

Sometimes yes, sometimes with extra units, sometimes only in one delivery format. Get it in writing rather than from a brochure.

What I could not establish

Everything above is sourced. These are the things I looked for and could not establish - take them to admissions, and note how quickly and precisely they answer.

  • No MFCC-specific admit rate. The 573-applicant / 55-admit / 49-enroll figures are department-wide across three degrees; the department does not break out applications by specialization, only enrollments (20 of the 49 new students entered MFCC).
  • No published relational (couple/family) sub-minimum inside the 700-hour degree fieldwork requirement. The handbook only states the 280-hour direct-contact floor and separately explains the BBS's post-degree 500-hour couples-and-families rule.
  • The 2024–25 Student Advising Handbook's MFCC course-requirements table lists COUN 741 (Crisis Counseling) as required, which would make the degree 63 units. The 2026–27 Bulletin does not list COUN 741 and totals exactly 60, and neither of the handbook's own MFCC roadmaps includes 741. We have used the Bulletin. This matters for the LPCC calculation: if 741 is not part of the MFCC 60, the CMHC emphasis costs 12 extra units rather than 9.
  • No published MFCC-specific licensure-exam pass rate. The annual report gives GPA, supervisor-evaluation pass rates and disposition data, but not BBS exam outcomes.
  • Reddit could not be searched (the site blocked automated retrieval), and Student Doctor Network's only substantive SFSU thread is from 2009. No recent independent student reviews were located.
  • Whether a 2025–26 practicum handbook exists; the most recent one the department has posted is 2024–25.
Sources for this page (9)
  1. SFSU Bulletin 2026–27 — M.S. in Counseling: Concentration in Marriage, Family, and Child Counseling
  2. SFSU Bulletin 2026–27 — Counseling (COUN) course descriptions
  3. Practicum & Internship Handbook 2024–2025, SFSU Department of Counseling
  4. Student Advising Handbook 2024–2025, SFSU Department of Counseling (MFCC roadmaps)
  5. 2023–2024 CACREP Annual Performance Report, SFSU Department of Counseling
  6. Admission Instruction and Requirements, SFSU Department of Counseling
  7. Practicum and Internship, SFSU Department of Counseling
  8. SFSU Bursar's Office — Current Academic Year 2025–2026 tuition and fees
  9. Student Doctor Network — Feedback on MFT Program at SDSU, SFSU and Sonoma State?
Last checked8 August 2026All updates →
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