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A 2008 conviction still reached a 2024 application
In short
The application was granted by stipulation. The registration issues on completion of all requirements, is immediately re
three yrs probationThe seven-year lookback in section 480 does not apply to serious felonies; the registration issued on three years of probation.
It marks exactly where the seven-year lookback stops, and shows that a Statement of Issues can end in a registration rather than a denial.
What happened
On September 2, 2006, police responded to a bar in Orange County about a bar fight that ended with the respondent assaulting someone with a knife.
On May 22, 2008, in Orange County Superior Court, he was found guilty and convicted of attempted murder under Penal Code sections 664(a) and 187(a), and of two counts of assault with a deadly weapon other than a firearm, great bodily injury likely, under Penal Code section 245(a)(1). All three counts were felonies. At a sentencing hearing on December 12, 2008 he was sentenced to 7 years to life in state prison with credit for 250 days served.
He filed an application for an Associate Clinical Social Worker registration with the Board on March 29, 2024, dated March 15, 2024. The Board denied it on April 15, 2025 on the basis of his criminal history. A Statement of Issues followed and was served on June 30, 2025. The stipulation notes that the Statement of Issues stated the application dates a year late.
The Board’s cause for denial rested on the exception in the statute rather than the ordinary rule. Section 480(a)(1) normally lets a board deny an application only for a conviction within the preceding seven years, and nearly sixteen years had passed. But the seven-year limit does not apply where the applicant was convicted of a serious felony as defined in Penal Code section 1192.7, and the Board cited two of that section’s definitions: subdivision (c)(9), attempted murder, and subdivision (c)(23), any felony in which the defendant personally used a dangerous or deadly weapon.
He was represented by counsel and settled, admitting the truth of every charge and allegation and agreeing to be bound by the Board’s probationary terms. The decision contains no factual findings about anything he did between 2008 and the application.
What it was charged as
A board may deny an application for a substantially related conviction within the preceding seven years — except that the seven-year limit falls away for a serious felony under Penal Code section 1192.7 or an offense requiring sex offender registration.
Conviction of a substantially related crime is unprofessional conduct and a ground to deny a clinical social worker registration; the Board may look into the circumstances surrounding the crime to fix the degree of discipline.
Defines serious felony, including at (c)(9) attempted murder and at (c)(23) any felony in which the defendant personally used a dangerous or deadly weapon.
A crime is substantially related if to a substantial degree it evidences present or potential unfitness to practice consistent with public health, safety, or welfare, judged on nature and gravity, years elapsed, and the duties of the profession.
The rehabilitation criteria a board applies to an applicant: nature and gravity, later acts, time elapsed, compliance with probation or parole terms, and evidence of rehabilitation submitted by the applicant.
Attempt to commit a crime.
Murder.
Assault with a deadly weapon other than a firearm, or by means of force likely to produce great bodily injury.
The outcome
The application was granted by stipulation. The registration issues on completion of all requirements, is immediately revoked, the revocation is stayed, and the respondent is on three years of probation, with $1,200 a year in probation monitoring costs.
No cost recovery stated in the orderWhat the rule actually says
The seven-year lookback in section 480 is not a clean slate. For a serious felony as defined in Penal Code section 1192.7, and for offenses requiring sex offender registration, the time limit disappears and a conviction of any age remains a ground for denial. Subdivision (c)(23) of that definition sweeps in any felony in which the defendant personally used a dangerous or deadly weapon, so a weapon in the file is usually enough to remove the time bar entirely. Everything else still applies: the Board must still find the crime substantially related, must still work through the rehabilitation criteria, and cannot bar an applicant categorically by conviction type. The age of the conviction becomes an argument about rehabilitation rather than a limit on the Board’s reach.
Discussion
Analysis, not part of the decision
Most of what people believe about section 480 comes from the 2020 amendments, which cut boards back to convictions within the preceding seven years. The carve-out is less well known and is the whole case here. Subdivision (a)(1)(A) removes the seven-year limit for a serious felony as defined by Penal Code section 1192.7 and for offenses requiring sex offender registration. The Board cited two definitions of serious felony, and only one of them is dramatic: (c)(9) is attempted murder, but (c)(23) is any felony in which the defendant personally used a dangerous or deadly weapon. Under (c)(23), an ordinary assault-with-a-deadly-weapon count carries the same consequence. The practical rule for an applicant is that a weapon in the record probably means no clock is running.
What this document does not contain is as instructive as what it does. It is a stipulated settlement, so there are no findings about the years between 2008 and 2024: no treatment record, no employment history, no letters, no testimony, no analysis under the rehabilitation criteria in title 16, section 1813. That is the trade a stipulation makes. The respondent admitted the allegations and accepted conditions rather than putting on a rehabilitation case at hearing, and in exchange he got a registration without the risk of an outright denial. Whether that was the right trade depends on evidence that is not in the file, which is exactly why the decision is silent about it.
The conditions are the substance of what he agreed to. Three years of probation; a psychological or psychiatric evaluation within 90 days at his own cost, with a duty to follow the evaluator’s recommendations and to stop practicing if the evaluator says he cannot practice safely; weekly psychotherapy with a Board-approved therapist who files quarterly reports on his fitness to practice; quarterly self-reports under penalty of perjury; written notice of any change of employer or residence within 30 days; a copy of the decision to every current and future employer before starting work; notice to any client whose therapy or confidentiality is affected, signed by the client; no supervising anyone toward licensure; and $1,200 a year for monitoring. The order also says probation continues on the same terms if he later becomes licensed, so a three-year term that starts as an associate follows him into LCSW licensure.
No investigation-and-enforcement cost recovery was ordered in this decision; the monitoring fee is a probation condition rather than a penalty. That is a small point with a large practical edge: the recurring cost of a probationary registration is predictable and it is his to carry for the full term, on top of paying for the evaluation and for weekly therapy.
Where insurance reaches, and where it does not
There is nothing insurable in the criminal conduct; intentional acts, criminal acts, and fraud are excluded from every professional liability policy. The coverage that matters to a person in this position is license-defense expense, the separate limit inside most professional liability policies that pays an attorney to represent you in a Board matter. An applicant has no registration and usually no policy, so the legal fees in a Statement of Issues case come out of pocket — this respondent hired his own counsel. Once the registration issues, buy the policy immediately, and understand that the probation itself is a consequence, not a claim: no insurer reimburses the $1,200 annual monitoring fee, the psychological evaluation, or the weekly therapy the order requires.
What would have changed it
- Do not assume an old conviction has aged out; check whether it is a serious felony under Penal Code section 1192.7 — which includes any felony involving personal use of a weapon — before you rely on the seven-year window.
- Disclose the whole criminal history on the application, with the disposition documents attached; the Board pulls the record either way, and a gap becomes a second, independent problem.
- Get counsel before you answer a Statement of Issues; a negotiated registration on probation is a real option, and most applicants do not know it exists.
Questions
For a law and ethics seminar, or for yourself
- Section 480(a)(1)(A) leaves a serious felony available to a board indefinitely while an ordinary felony ages out in seven years. What is the policy justification for that line, and does Penal Code section 1192.7(c)(23) — any felony involving personal use of a dangerous or deadly weapon — actually track it?
- This case settled, so the record contains no findings about what the respondent did in the years after the conviction. What does an applicant give up by stipulating, what does the public lose, and under what conditions is that trade defensible?
- The probation follows the respondent into full licensure and requires him to notify clients whose therapy is affected by its terms. Draft what you think that notification should say, and defend the line you drew between the client’s right to know and the associate’s privacy.
Source. This write-up is drawn from the signed public decision in the case number above. Names, cities and employers have been removed — why. To pull the original, open the Board's quarterly newsletter archive, find the issue covering December 4, 2025, and match the case number in the Formal Disciplinary Actions section. Not legal advice.